Thread for comments on this map.

Might be old topic, but I have to say this.

The positioning of the red obelisk makes for an easier camp ground compared to blue's. It might be just me, but I think that the red base is ALWAYS easier to invade.

Red's base should be an exact mirror to blue's base. This is how it should be on all maps so 1 team cannot easily get the upper hand all the time.

Well its not. The obby's are in different positions.

I hope this addresses the linearity and campability of this map, which is wildly popular due to its constant close fighting and never having any lulls in something to shoot at.

However, tiberium is too easy to attack on this map, and there is only one route into the enemy base, making any sort of attack a complete bitch. The most common gameplay of this currently revolves around camping the enemy's tiberium patch, and then send mechs in to seal the deal that no one ever gets through. But the base ITSELF is incredibly difficult to infiltrate, so the guys kind of just sit there and keeping the other team from leaving until they get bored. There is also no alternative tiberium field like the rest of the maps.

That additional stack of climbing crates over the wall in each base is debatable. On one hand it might make games go faster but people still like to make this map an impenetrable sandbag fortress anyway, myself included (hey, it works).

Looking sexy?

I do like this map because of the constant combat. (War!!)
But I also agree that perhaps some more ways to infiltrate would make this map much less of, heh, sudden death whore.

Lava on barrens? Since when is this? Though I think the map needs a retheme in general.

Also by now I think that instakill pits aren't that great of a feature to add to a map, I'd rather have heavily damaging floors. In Overload I had lava with 40hp/sec damage. >:F

The sky looks terrible and doesn't fit the map at all.

Talking about skies, would this be usable?


And if so, what's to improve here? :o
Kinda going for a desert-ey look here. (Might have to remove that clumpy part.)

Edit:

After a little task in IRC:




Argh, the top has to be flipped. Also, if some of you guys feel like rendering it at higher resolutions, here's the TGD. (Quite simple stuff.)

I love it. Hopefully you can get it to look good in software too.

I'm planning on revamping Barrens and using a different sky... though this would definitely fit AOW18 and 12's secret to replace Sorbine.

Should work fine in the in-the-works playpal tho. Lemme test...

Smexy.

Those screens look pretty damn impressive.

I hope the dimensions of each room aren't changed. The fanbase really loves this map the way it is and changing any more than the aesthetics would probably most likely be met with very strong backlash.

What I mean is the usual expanding and upsizing of maps when they get remakes. Sure as hell happened to the series of Renegade maps, among others.

I do know that. Not intending on resizing this in any form... just making it prettier. Thought that means I'm gonna have to make up a new building set for this map..

The only change that I'd believe could affect gameplay is that I reconstructed the hill slope to be less flat, so it'll affect infantry movement. Mechs should have less trouble climbing it up though, in contrast to current version where they could get stuck in it. Also I've rebuilt the mid building as shown in screenshot but it'll be much like the current one from the gameplay standpoint. More barrels, though.